Pastwatch

Pastwatch

Pastwatch

Read my review of Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus by Orson Scott Card on The Seven Sentence Blog.

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  • Lanny A. Eichert May 29, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    Fiction, Alice, fiction. Are you so corrupt that you can’t tell reality from fiction? Time travel will NEVER be reality. God Himself never changed the past, so LEARN that since God hasn’t done it, it will never be done by mankind.

    • Lanny A. Eichert May 29, 2015 at 4:39 pm

      Look, Alice, why should God send His only begotten Son to redeem mankind if He could have travelled back in time to fix Adam and Eve’s environment so they would not have sinned? Why would your loving God let six million Jews die in Nazi Germany if He could have traveled back in time and fixed German politics and society to prevent anti-semetism? All the persons you have loved, but who died without confessing Christ, could have been saved if God would have gone back in time to right their past experiences, but He COULD NOT. There are things God is not able to do, dear Alice.

    • Alice Spicer May 31, 2015 at 9:52 am

      Of course I know the difference between fiction and reality. Why do you continuously insult me? Do you think that by doing so I and others who read your comments will be won over to your way of thinking? You hurt your own cause by the way you treat others.

      • Lanny A. Eichert May 31, 2015 at 4:51 pm

        Alice, why do you, when I accommodate you, continue to ask if I think time dilation is a reality when I continue to frame it as a THEORY that will not even apply to Moses’ and Elijah’s intelligent conscious conversation with Jesus in the intelligent hearing of His three disciples? Why do you push it after YOU wrote that it will prove nothing about eternal torment or universal reconciliation, especially after I’ve written my sole reason for my citing Moses and Elijah is to prove the reality of everlasting torment and to ruin universal reconciliation? HAVE YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND? Does your supposted application of TD introduce some significant factor that ruins intelligent post-mortem consciousness which I argue proves sinners unendingly burn from the moment they physically die? If so, prove it to me instead of hiding behind definitions. State your case and we can consider definitions as we go through it. Definitions need a CONTEXT to be either valid or not.

      • Lanny A. Eichert May 31, 2015 at 5:07 pm

        Alice writes May 31, 2015 at 9:52 am Of course I know the difference between fiction and reality. The context of that statement is time travel. Alice, are you admitting that #1) time travel is fiction
        and #2) time travel will never be reality?

  • Lanny A. Eichert May 29, 2015 at 4:27 pm

    Back to Moses and Elijah on the Mount of Transfiguration. You have continued this issue toying with nonsense. Acknowledge that you have no case with time dilation. Face the reality that their intelligent conscious discussion hundreds of years after their passing from mortality (before their resurrection) proves unbelieving sinners’ immediate post-mortem torment and everlasting torment.

    Since you claim to be clearing away misconceptions, please confess everlasting torment is reality and universal reconciliation is the devil’s lie.

  • Mary Vanderplas May 30, 2015 at 5:13 am

    The book sounds intriguing. I like the author’s idea of using time travel to create an alternative timeline in which historical evils are averted and acts that bring about a more humane world are performed. The story line in which people from the future work to undo the horrors of the Spanish conquest of America begun by Columbus sounds especially gripping. (For a poignant discussion of the “crisis of culture” characterizing life in North America today that traces back to the Spanish conquest with its greed-incited exploitation of the New World and its inhabitants, see Barry Lopez’s brief but powerful The Rediscovery of North America.)

    I like your review. While I’m ordinarily not a big fan of science fiction, your vivid description of the book and the quotes from it related to Columbus’ spirituality and to the author’s perspective on issues of life’s meaning piqued my interest. Also, I like what you say about the book prompting reflection on our own behaviors and their far-reaching effects.

    Thanks for sharing this well-written and stimulating review of what sounds like an excellent read.

    • Lanny A. Eichert June 2, 2015 at 1:27 am

      Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

      Destruction, Mary & Alice, is everlasting torment in the Lake of Fire. Moses’ and Elijah’s conversation with Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration in the presence of His three listening disciples proves the physically dead unbeliever is now burning in hades and will forever be tormented. (All because they were there between physical death and bodily resurrection.)

      Hey, you two, it is time to clear away that misconception called universal reconciliation by acknowledging Moses and Elijah ruin it and prove everlasting torment.

  • Lanny A. Eichert June 2, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    Dear readers, especially new ones, this site is operated by a discontented disciplined former church member for promoting the heresy that God’s love is so great that He will save every moral creature He created, even the devil and his demons, inasmuch as God’s love overcomes His justice by His Son’s death on the Cross. Since God is eternal, supposedly He is not limited by time to save the majority of humanity and all the demonic angels, so their suffering in the Lake of Fire supposedly will have an immense duration sufficient enough to eventually produce in them faith in the cross necessary to graciously save them.

    The operator of this site cannot bare to think that all those wonderful people she has known who physically died without confessing Christ are forever doomed to eternal torment, so she promotes this idea which gives them hope after, not just years, but ages upon ages upon ages of horrible suffering supposedly lovingly designed to be remedial sufficient to force overcoming faith to appear in them whereby God is enabled to finally save them.

    So she calls it “Clearing Away Misconceptions” and “What God Does” without any sound authority. Her Bible isn’t worth a hoot because she doesn’t believe each and every word of it was given by God right down to the spelling of every word. She thinks that the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16 is just a parable having nothing to do with life after death, but merely Jesus’ teaching against the rich neglecting the poor. She wants a god that loves everybody and that’s what she makes God out to be of her own emotions, typical of a woman. So readers beware!

    • Lanny A. Eichert June 3, 2015 at 3:00 pm

      Readers, since her Bible isn’t worth a hoot, it is insane how she argues about Greek words like αἰώνιος aiōnios not meaning without end, and yet in her favorite translation of her favorite text, Colossians 1: 20, she misses the two prepositions, upon and in, which ruin her expectations of the reconciliation of those in the Lake of Fire, which is not UPON the earth nor in the heavens, whether old or new.

      and through him to reconcile the all things to himself — having made peace through the blood of his cross — through him, whether the things upon the earth, whether the things in the heavens.

      Her main emphasis of this text is on “all things” which she wants to mean everything without exclusion contrary to the explanation given at the end of the text, namely “whether the things upon the earth, whether the things in the heavens.” Additionally the same word, πάντα πᾶς pas, is used in verse 6, ἐν παντὶ τῷ κόσμῳ in all the world, and in verse 23, κηρυχθέντος ἐν πάσῃ τῇ κτίσει τῇ ὑπὸ τὸν οὐρανόν preached in all the creation that is under the heaven; both of which have an understood limitation. She deliberately ignores the limitation of people living upon the surface of the earth excludes those dead in the earth in graves.

      Physical death, therefore, terminates the offer of salvation. Nobody who physically dies without confessing Christ can be reconciled to God thereafter. That means everlasting torment for the unbeliever.

    • Lanny A. Eichert June 3, 2015 at 11:15 pm

      Dear readers, I sure am glad my Bible is worth a hoot, in fact a “hallelujah” meaning “Praise Yahweh” for He has kept His Bible accurate throughout the centuries as the Authority for faith, life, and practice. Has anybody returned from the dead centuries later and known exactly what’s been going on? Oh yes, the Bible tells us about Moses and Elijah on the Mount of Transfiguration with Jesus and three of His disciples discussing Jesus’ decease which He was shortly to accomplish in Jerusalem. They were talking about the details of a future event foretold in Old Testament prophecy which was about to immediately be fulfilled. All the prophecies in the Old Testament concerning the First Advent, in other words, the incarnation of the Son of God, are testimonies to the perfection of the Holy Bible since they were so perfectly fulfilled in the New Testament Gospel accounts of Jesus of Nazareth even to specific minute details. Such evidence takes a fool to assert the Bible was a collection of folklore made by men. The same applies, if I were nice, that only a fool would claim it is a collected blend of history and religious thought.

      So Moses and Elijah being actually there demonstrate active intelligent conscious up-to-date awareness of persons who have departed this mortality, which puts substance to the rich man and Lazarus in Jesus’ Luke 16: 19 – 31 account making them both real-life persons, one tormented in flames and the other comforted in bliss. God’s perfect literal Holy Bible proves what this site is trying to unprove (disprove), which is everlasting torment of unbelievers. Even in Hades the rich man didn’t ask Abraham to help him get saved, and yet Alice thinks that enough suffering will eventually bring any sinner to faith without any outside help even if they’ve never heard. No, the rich man didn’t want out, he only didn’t want his living brothers to die in unbelief because they’d surely come to the same place of unending torment. He knew he was there forever without hope or remedy. Abraham didn’t even have compassion for the rich man, did he? Abraham is a BMOC in the Bible, the Father of Faith, and he would not help the rich man, because there was no more help to be had for him. He was eternally lost once he physically died. Physical death is the cut-off point for salvation. If you don’t get saved BEFORE you die, you’ll burn forever without remedy. Believe or burn: that’s reality.

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