America is NOT a Christian Nation… Guest Blog by Rachel Munns

America is NOT a Christian Nation… Guest Blog by Rachel Munns

America is NOT a Christian Nation… Guest Blog by Rachel Munns

America is NOT a Christian nation: As a friend of Christ and an American, I am thankful

I keep hearing these comments made about America being a Christian nation. America is a multi-cultural, multi-racial, multi-religious country. I believe we’re all the better for it. We are not a Christian nation, a Muslim nation, or a secular nation. What we are is a nation of diverse peoples who could and should be made stronger by our diversity. How can Americans expect to keep their freedoms when they are so quick to deny those freedoms to others?

If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.

~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789

It seems to me, Muslim Extremists act out in terrible, violent ways because they have become so obsessed with being right and with trying to force, by any means necessary, their world view, that they forget the whole message of their religion. Sound familiar? Well, it should. Because it happens within Christianity as well. I am not just talking about the crusades or the Catholic/Protestant let’s burn/behead anyone who disagrees. Even in this day and age: dangerous cults, abortion clinic bombings, homophobia, violence committed in God’s name. There are atrocities going on right now in around the world in the name of Christianity that make me feel physically sick. The more you allow hate and fear to control your thinking the more twisted your worldview becomes.

I get it, people are scared. Our fear does not service us. To use a Star Wars reference, “Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to the dark side.” Every time.

The anti-Islamic, or anti-(place group of choice here) sentiment in the country and in the world is just awful to behold. It seems obvious to me that when you think using a US vs. THEM mentality that you are becoming exactly what you fear, an extremist. You may not be blowing anything up, but you are contributing to an environment of fear and distrust that can only lead us down the path to The Dark Side.

Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual.

State churches that use government power to support themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of the church tends to make the clergy unresponsive to the people and leads to corruption within religion. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society. We have solved … the great and interesting question whether freedom of religion is compatible with order in government and obedience to the laws. And we have experienced the quiet as well as the comfort which results from leaving every one to profess freely and openly those principles of religion which are the inductions of his own reason and the serious convictions of his own inquiries.”

~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson: in a speech to the Virginia Baptists, 1808

I would like to believe we have not forgotten the terrible lessons of the Holocaust and the anti-Semitic, or anti-(place group of choice here) sentiment that allowed it to take place. To place the blame on Hitler alone, or the Nazi party, or the Germans is a dangerously blind simplicity of history. The belief that Jews were inherently evil had been propagated for some time. As were similar sentiments about the mentally disabled and others who became targets for Nazis. This was a widely held view by many, even Christians, that accumulated in the actions of Hitler and the Nazi Party. I would like to believe that we, humanity, learned something from that. However, the Islamaphobia and general fear and hatred of THEM that I see taking place in this country makes me doubt that we have.

Religion is not mandated or imposed by the American government for one reason, it does not, can not, and should not work. Our forefathers understood that. They saw what happened in Europe when the Government tried to enforce religious beliefs. A bloodbath. Wars and countless atrocities all in the name of God. So in their wisdom they wrote the first amendment which allows for freedom of religion, freedom of thought and faith. You must choose God for God to have any effect on your life. Mandates are made by man and man is certainly no God.

Ephesians 4:2-3 “with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.”

We shall overcome.


Rachel Munns is a middle school Language Arts teacher at Einstein Charter School in Gainesville, FL. She has a B.A. in Fine Arts with a focus on Literature. A mother of two incredible children, Rachel says, “They’ve certainly taught me more than I’ve taught them.” She enjoys stories, kindness and nature in all of her glory. She hopes to love the hell out of the world wherever she can.

  • Lanny A. Eichert July 4, 2015 at 4:22 am

    Rachel, I suppost “anti-(incest) sentiment in the country and in the world is just awful to behold” for you, am I right to use your statement? Are you an extremist? You are too broad-based and one-sided. You forget our laws came straight from the Holy Bible, the foundation of Christianity, not from any particular church within Christianity. To avoid a state church requires staying within the parameters of Christianity where the churches are found. Don’t mix apples and oranges in your arguments. Christianity is the superior “religion” and it calls for the hatred of evils and the loving of the good. You cannot erase hate and have only love, dear girl, because evil continues since Satan fell, taking angels and men with him. THEM and US with never cease because Matthew 7: 13 & 14 is still in the Bible. Your short-sightedness makes it obvious that you are not any more part of US than Alice is any part of US. Neither of you are properly born again the Fundamental Baptist way and for that reason you lack a proper world view and understanding. You both need to get into Alice’s dad’s sending church and get educated in truth, because you’re just drifting about your emotions instead of Biblical doctrine.

    • Rachel July 4, 2015 at 10:31 am

      Thank you for reading and commenting.

  • Mary Vanderplas July 4, 2015 at 5:57 am

    I like what you say about our nation being founded on religious freedom leading to a culture of religious diversity and about the perils of religious coercion as seen both in history and in the present. I agree that not only is there a civil case to be made against state involvement in the church – the specter of spiritual tyranny – but also a religious one: the threat of corruption of the church by entanglement with worldly powers. I agree that faith cannot be coerced, that one must choose God for faith to be faith, not tyranny. And I think you’re right on to assert that the founders of our nation well understood this and so took pains to lay the foundations of a culture in which religion could flourish on its own terms without government interference.

    Thanks for the thoughtful blog!

    • Rachel July 4, 2015 at 10:28 am

      I have read many of your comments on Alice’s blog and I respect your opinions. Thank you for reading and commenting.

    • Lanny A. Eichert July 4, 2015 at 1:07 pm

      Mary, it is just more of the same facebook comments from you: I like what …. I agree that …. I agree that …. And I think you’re ….

      • Mary Vanderplas July 5, 2015 at 5:10 am

        Says the one whose routinely off-topic blather fills this website…..

        • Lanny A. Eichert July 5, 2015 at 11:08 am

          So, Mary, WHEN are you going to advise Alice that Moses’ and Elijah’s conversation with Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration ruins her Universal Reconciliation, because they prove intelligent post-mortem consciousness and everlasting torment? Advise her that she’s promoting misconceptions rather than clearing them. Aren’t you BOTH failing that purpose?

        • Lanny A. Eichert July 5, 2015 at 11:17 am

          Mary, it is intellectual DISHONESTY after more than three and an half months of being presented Moses and Elijah to be running away from the conclusion that UR is impossible and heretical. Besides the Holy Bible ends with the Lake of Fire populated without remedy. Matthew 7: 13, 14, 21 – 23 still in Jesus’ words divides the world’s human population into the “them” and “us” of which both of you belong to the them. Without the fundamental rebirth you cannot be joined to “us.”

  • Stephen Helbig July 4, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    Rachel, it is truly revitalizing to see, on this FOURTH Day of JULY, in the Year of our Lord 2015, the current social change with all its cultural conflicts being swept away by you and yours, a “called out” generation. ~ As you presented and reafirmed in Dylan’s Song, ~ “I hear in my heart (deep in my heart), and I do believe, ~ “We” shall overcome”, ~ “We shall live in Peace” ~ In the unity of the Spirit and in the bond of His Peace.

    The ongoing transformations from all the darkness of the ailing traditions found of men, and the current fundamental thinking of extreme literalist dogma, (the “dark side” of violence) is truly a delight to see being diminished and subdued by you and yours and replaced with the LIGHT OF HIS GLORY. ~ The utilization of the scripture text found in Ephesians 4: 1-3 is truly a delight and one of my all time favorites; This passage being so very dear to my heart, was one of the very first teachings I did as a young teacher founded in His Word some 35 years ago. Your choice of this particular passage put a big smile on my face, :) seeing the countenance of The Lord present in You. Thanks for your insightful words in this guest blog and your uplifting presence. I say to you Rachel, ~ “You and yours are truly a CHOSEN GENERATION, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR God’s OWN POSSESSION, and you indeed graciously proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.”

    p.s. ~ “love the hell out of the world”

    • Rachel July 5, 2015 at 10:47 am

      Thanks for the affirmation. God’s love wins, always!

      • Lanny A. Eichert July 9, 2015 at 12:08 am

        Not the way YOU think. Your way is just as perverse as Stephen’s. You’re trying to re-write the history of the United States of America. GOD wrote the Ten Commandments which are being denied their rightful place on government property by a misinterpretation of words and intent because people are loving their self-passions more than God and country. True love protects purity instead of exploiting it.

        R BAD 4

        Bad verses Good
        Right verses Wrong

        Where has the MORALS issue been? Has it been dwarfed by so-called equality? Has it been eliminated with God being removed from the public square? What is the source of morality?


        • Lanny A. Eichert July 9, 2015 at 12:30 am

          Have you had sex before marriage just to try it? Have you slept sexually with a partner for recreational love? Have you “lived together” trying to determine if you’re a suitable match for a long term relationship? Have you fornicated? Because that’s what it is and it is morally wrong; it doesn’t matter that it is common occurance; it is still morally wrong, a common moral wrong. It is as morally wrong as adultery, cheating on one’s spouse. Open relationships are similiarly morally wrong.

          Is morality an absolute or is it as fickle as the trends of time? (Is the history of the United States of America an absolute or is it as fickle as the trends of time?)

      • Lanny A. Eichert July 9, 2015 at 12:47 am

        Rachel, God’s love always wins ONLY for those who trust Him and you not among them because your Universal Reconciliation is unadulterated heresy. Moses’ & Elijah’s conversation on the Mount of Transfiguration proves it, but you are too foolish/rebellious to admit it and to persuade stubborn Alice to confess it. God’s love is not winning you, but He is willing to let you have your hellish way even if it terminates in everlasting torment; and it will if you don’t change before you physically die. Physical death ends your opportunity to be saved, so stop playing with this heresy. You need to get serious about believing God’s perfect literal Holy Bible. Orthodox Christianity has been an historical help for those who would get serious about knowing the truth required to be saved. Stop playing, Rachel, or it will be too late.

  • Lanny A. Eichert July 9, 2015 at 1:19 am

    The Declaration of Independence

    IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

    The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–

    the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God
    endowed by their Creator
    What Creator/God did the designers of this document reference if He isn’t the Christian One?

    to be self-evident, that all men are created equal
    Who created all men?
    Does “equal” mean “all equally LGBTQ”?
    If they were born that way, why aren’t all born that way?
    Why then is there such a minority of LGBTQ?

    • Lanny A. Eichert July 9, 2015 at 12:29 pm

      The LGBTQ minority are of their own sinful free will choosing. A choice. An activity of their sinful corrupt mind. Otherwise every criminal can claim they were born that way. They made a choice to commit a crime against society. LGBTQ have made the same choice.

      R BAD 4

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