Aion and Eternal

Aion and Eternal

Aion and Eternal

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  • Mary Vanderplas December 2, 2015 at 5:34 am

    I agree that we won’t be snuffed out at the end of time. However, I wouldn’t say that we are promised immortality – i.e., an immortal soul that cannot die. What we are promised is resurrection – that our mortal bodies will be raised and unimaginably transformed in the life of the world to come, that we won’t die in the next world. (See 1 Corinthians 15:35-58.) But I agree that we need not fear that we will cease to exist and that we shouldn’t translate the word “aionion” as eternal/unending because we think that not to do so means affirming that at the end of the age our lives will cease forever. And I think you’re right about the connection between the belief that God will punish his enemies eternally and the view that “aionion” in reference to the life of the age to come must mean unending/eternal.

    I like the video presentation of your message. It’s creatively done – and packs a punch!

    • Lanny A. Eichert December 2, 2015 at 1:32 pm

      To ignore, Mary and Alice, the other resurrection is an intellectual crime.

      Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; … they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. {John 5: 28 & 29}

      To paint yourselves into 1 Corinthians 15 is just as criminally dishonest when you don’t even have an infallible Bible. Since God’s Holy Bible is perfect and literal, your bible is the bible of unbelievers and you have condemned yourselves to Hell/Lake of Fire. Certainly you will not cease to exist, but you will wish that were possible because you will not escape unending torment. You two are yet in your sins and will die in your sins, poor souls.

      • Alice Spicer December 2, 2015 at 5:42 pm

        What particular Bibles are you talking about?

        • Lanny A. Eichert December 2, 2015 at 7:44 pm

          The perfect Bible of God’s believers and the imperfect bible of God’s unbelievers.
          You don’t get it, do you? That’s why your bible is imperfect. You’re unbelieving. You’re unsaved. You have the imperfect bible.

          • Alice Spicer December 2, 2015 at 9:23 pm

            So, if I understand you correctly, we could actually read the same Bible, with the same words, and your Bible would be perfect while mine is imperfect?

            • Lanny A. Eichert December 2, 2015 at 9:54 pm

              yes

              • Lanny A. Eichert December 5, 2015 at 4:41 am

                See Mary, Alice knows when to stop arguing because she’s defiled and unbelieving.

                Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. {Titus 1: 15}

                Just like her bible is not pure, neither is yours, therefore you can justify the LBGTQ community and yourself with such words as: One doesn’t have to be heterosexual in order to live out one’s sexuality in a way that pleases and honors God: growing in self-giving love in a committed relationship. {30Nov2015 at 5:02 am}

                Don’t you remember, Mary, when you ceased to be a little girl and became a woman in a matter of minutes? At that moment you learned and felt you were destined to produce babies inside your body and to nourish them with milk from your own chest. You learned that starts with sperm which originates in another gender. That’s heterosexuality, dear girl, and the only way to please and honor God by design. You go contrary to design and you dishonor and displease God. Why are you going contrary to what you naturally learned and felt the moment you became a woman? Why are you going contrary to nature? Can’t you see it is unnatural and a perversion to do so? God’s perfect literal Holy Bible bears testimony to that fact in Romans 1: 18 – 32 and Jude 7, but since your bible is not pure, would you rather obey your lust than believe Holy Writ word for word? Instead aren’t you falling in with Alice and also perverting Aion by her persuasion?

    • Alice Spicer December 2, 2015 at 5:45 pm

      Thanks for the feedback 🙂

    • Lanny A. Eichert December 6, 2015 at 12:00 am

      Again, Mary and Alice, to ignore the other resurrection is an intellectual crime. Alice, you typically skirted and sidetracked the issue with your “what Bible” question.

      All that are in the graves … shall come forth; … that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. {John 5: 28 & 29}

      To paint your defiled and unbelieving selves into 1 Corinthians 15 is just as criminally dishonest. Certainly you will not cease to exist, but you will wish that were possible because you will not escape unending torment. You two are yet in your sins and will die in your sins, poor souls whose minds and consciences are defiled. {Titus 1: 15}.

      All the questions I asked Mary 05Dec2015 at 4:41 am she would answer with her dirty mind and respond with her dirty conscience, just like you, Alice, do with your dirty mind and dirty conscience. That’s what “defiled” means, dear ladies.

      Your minds are so dirty that you want to take that {1 Corinthians 15:35-58} which was written to God’s believers solely about God’s believers and apply it to your wicked unbelieving selves who can’t even believe God’s Holy Bible is a purely perfect Book. Can’t you see how inconsistent you are in your minds and consciences, since you find no fault in doing so: violating the context to whom and about whom the Epistle is written? What is addressed is the resurrection body of only God’s believers. The resurrection of the unjust is not the context in any way, shape, or form. What is addressed is what if Christ did NOT resurrect from the dead – that if He did not, then Christianity is vain, but since He did, God’s CHRISTIAN believers have a sure resurrection expectation of great hope and glory. God’s BELIEVERS’ resurrection alone is described and no exposition/description is given to the resurrection of the wicked. THAT SHOULD BE EVIDENT BY THE GLORY ATTENDING THIS RESURRECTION, WHICH WOULD NOT BE FITTING THE RESURRECTION OF THE WICKED {JOHN 5: 28 & 29} The glory is that of saved and sanctified saints.

      Again, Alice and Mary, your chronology of your Universal Reconciliation is impossible because you end up with the wicked being twice resurrected, first to judgment, then, ages later, to life. Resurrection is once per customer, dear poor little girls with filthy minds and filthy consciences. That’s why John 5: 29 “the resurrection of damnation” is FINAL and you both will burn forever, if you don’t get this right. You are in rebellion, you know, don’t you?

      • Lanny A. Eichert December 7, 2015 at 12:22 am

        1 Samuel 15: 23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD

        witches, witches, two witches

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  • Cathy August 29, 2016 at 12:19 am

    Scripture clearly teaches God will save all at the end of the ages. This is the Good News. God is love and so everything He does is done out of love. He corrects as a Good Father would. Eternal punishment is a mistranslation. There is no piont to punish forever. What would we say about a father who beats his child out of anger and then leaves him. Never to see him again. Jesus taught us to love our enemies so we can be like our Father in heaven. He clearly loves us all. For while we were enemies Christ died for us.

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