In Francis Chan’s book, Erasing Hell, chapter three, entitled “What Jesus Actually Said about Hell,” Chan writes, “[...] if Jesus did not agree with the view of hell presented in the last chapter, then He would have had to deliberately and clearly argue against it.”

As I mentioned in the previous blog, Why Chan Can’t Erase Hell: Obama Is Fat, in order to examine Chan’s argument accurately, it is first important to establish whether Chan’s argument is valid and second, whether Chan’s argument is sound.  Notice the words “if” and “then” in Chan’s claim: ”[...] if Jesus did not agree with the view of hell presented in the last chapter, then He would have had to deliberately and clearly argue against it.”  This is a classic example of an argument in formal logic, a conditional statement – if this, then that.

In the previous blog, Why Chan Can’t Erase Hell: Obama Is Fat, I examined the validity of Chan’s conditional (if/then) statement and concluded:

The point is, if Jesus’s regular practice was to withhold, veil, or hide knowledge, why should we agree with Chan’s assumption that Jesus “would have had to deliberately and clearly” impart knowledge?

This is not to say that Jesus never said anything to contradict chapter two of Chan’s book.  I’ll get to that after we are done examining the validity of Chan’s conditional statement and the soundness of it, as we slowly but surely make our way through the dark and not-very-hopeful book, Erasing Hell.

Today, I would like to continue in examining the validity of Chan’s argument.  In order for an argument to be valid, the “if” part of the conditional statement, the premise for the argument, must justify the conclusion of the argument.  The premise doesn’t have to be true in order for the argument to be valid, but the conclusion must agree with the premise.  I have already demonstrated that Chan’s conclusion does not necessarily agree with his premise.  Next, I will demonstrate that the premise is so vague that it is impossible to decide whether the conclusion agrees with it.

Chan’s premise, once again, is: “if Jesus did not agree with the view of hell presented in the last chapter…”

What is the view of hell presented in chapter two of Erasing Hell?  I give a more thorough analysis in the blog, Why Chan Can’t Erase Hell: Abomination, but I’ll offer an abbreviated version of it here:

Chan’s bullet points about the first-century Jewish view of Hell are:

1. Hell is a place of punishment after judgment.

2. Hell is described in images of fire, darkness, and lament.

3. Hell is a place of annihilation.

4. Hell is a place of never-ending punishment.

There was a large sect of Jews, mentioned many times in the New Testament, who did not believe in Hell at all.  In fact, according to the first-century historian, Josephus, Sadducees believed that “souls die with the bodies.”  They did not believe in the immortality of the soul, the afterlife, or rewards or penalties after death.  Francis Chan includes this small note in the notes section following chapter two: “The Sadducees, who didn’t believe in an afterlife, certainly wouldn’t have believed in hell.” Why does Chan not include this in the body of the chapter, since not everyone reads the notes sections of books?  If the chapter is supposed to represent the first century Jewish view of Hell, why is this important information not given it proper place within the chapter?

Furthermore, among first-century Jews were the ordinary people, the crowds that congregated to hear Jesus, but were not included among (and even shunned by) the Sadducees or Pharisees.  The New Testament and other non-biblical records give us glimpses of them from time to time, but their beliefs are not as explicitly explained.  This people-group that outnumbers all the religious sects combined, are not represented at all in Chan’s argument.  I’m not blaming Chan, because he would have to rely on assumption and conjecture to explain their beliefs, but I do think that it is worth mentioning that the majority of the Jewish population in the first century is not included in Chan’s summary of the first-century Jewish view of Hell.

In addition to the information above, it is important to notice that Chan does not offer one unified view of Hell with which Jesus may or may not agree – specifically numbers 3 and 4 of his bullet points.  If people are annihilated in Hell, they can’t possibly punished eternally.  Likewise, if people are punished eternally, they can’t possibly be annihilated.  So, how is Jesus supposed to disagree “with the view of hell presented in the last chapter” if there is no single, clear view presented?  Is Jesus supposed to disagree with all four views?  What about the “garbage dump” view?  Why is it not included as a fifth option?  What about the Sadducees?  What about all the people who did not fit neatly into religious categories?  I suppose that Chan could change the singular word “view” in his premise to the plural word “views”, and then his premise might make a little bit more sense.  And then he would also need to specify which views Jesus “would have” challenged, if, indeed, He “would have” challenged them.

In summary, Chan’s argument is not valid because:

1. The conclusion does not necessarily agree with the premise.

2. The premise is too vague, inconsistent, and incomplete.

The next two blogs in this series will address whether Chan’s argument is sound.

Next blog in this series: Why Chan Can’t Erase Hell: Everlasting Sneeze

“Nature and Nature’s laws lay hid in night; God said Let Newton be! and all was light.”

Alexander Pope (1688–1744), British satirical poet.  Epitaph Intended for Sir Isaac Newton in Westminster Abbey (1730).

 

During Galileo’s childhood, the most widely accepted belief about the mechanism to explain planetary motion was that planets rode on an eternally unchanging solid crystalline sphere.  However, a supernova and a very bright comet, likely seen and remembered by Galileo, shook this seemingly firm foundation of the universe.  Between this and the “wandering planets” (two words some people use to describe any pesky little details that just don’t fit current scientific understanding), Galileo began to see the universe as a clock where motions are caused by some force.

It is no secret that Galileo’s ideas, and empirical science in general, were fiercely opposed by religious leaders.

Both in science and in religion, when someone takes the time to think ideas through, to examine, meditate upon, and imagine explanations for wandering planets, it often leads to some of the greatest discoveries mankind has known. Newton’s Mercury did not follow planetary laws, and had Newton left the idea alone, we might not have benefitted from Einstein’s subsequent laws of gravity – concepts that radically changed our understanding of space and time.  It has been suggested that Newton’s ideas about attractive and repulsive forces were inspired by his dabbling in the practice of alchemy.  This practice was frowned upon by religious leaders.  The way I see it, God knows exactly what He is doing, and if alchemy is what Newton needed in order to make his important discoveries, then God placed Newton in such an environment purposefully – so that Newton could hone his thinking-outside-the-box skills.

The same concept can be applied to pesky scriptures that don’t conform to widely accepted doctrine as well as an innate (God-given) understanding that somewhere along the way, humanity really screwed up true spirituality with religious dogma.  Orthodox Christians can look down their noses at people who read their horoscopes, go to palm readers, get involved in Scientology or mysticism.  Meanwhile, God is doing what He inevitably does best – revealing Himself to people.  Sometimes that revelation takes place through a long and difficult learning experience, a path of trial and error.

Giving people the breathing space to explore spiritual matters without condemnation is often viewed, through the orthodox lens, as condoning Satanic or antichrist activity.  But this view does not take into account the possibility that God stoops to the individual’s current level of understanding.  He knows what knowledge an individual can and can’t receive at any given season in his or her life. Furthermore, God is the only one who knows the intentions of the individual’s heart – whether his or her intent might be defined as the exact opposite of antichrist, that is, he or she may be hungry for spiritual truth, a desire to know God that has been initiated by God Himself, and may be acting upon that desire in the only manner he or she knows.  Who are these spiritual police, who know little or nothing about our Father’s timetable and method of reconciliation, to stand in judgment of their brothers and sisters?  God stoops for all of us, not just heretics and heathens.  Every one of us, every day, maybe even every hour or minute, are all in need of God’s grace.

In scientific theories about gravitation, the new “wandering planets” include extra fast moving stars, the rate of expansion of the universe, extra energetic photons.  In spiritual theories, the new “wandering planets” are not even on the table for consideration, at least not within the walls of the orthodox institutions.  I believe that God allowed a wedge to be driven between science and religion for a very good reason: so that religious people would become sick to death of religion-in-a-box and learn a thing or two from the scientific community about considering all possibilities, having the ability to admit that perhaps there have been and continue to be some terrible misunderstandings about Who God is and what God does.  In fact, this has already begun – look at the mass exodus of the human population from the institutional church.*  People will discover the significant difference between religion and spirituality.  In addition, people will discover that science and spirituality, like intellect and emotion, are both necessary in order to unravel the mysteries of the universe.  It’s only a matter of time…

 

*Read or listen to NPR’s story, “You Lost Me”: Young Christians Rethink Faith

Chan and I agree wholeheartedly on a few things, and this is one of them – what God wants, God gets.  In the opening pages of Chan’s “Erasing Hell“, he makes the point very clear:

God has the right to do WHATEVER [emphasis not mine] He pleases.  If I’ve learned one thing from studying hell, it’s that last line.  And whether or not you end up agreeing with everything I say about hell, you must agree with Psalm 115:3.  Because at the end of the day, our feelings and wants and heartaches and desires are not ultimate – only God is ultimate.  God tells us plainly that His ways and thoughts are infinitely higher than our (Isa. 55:9).  Expect then, that Scripture will say things that don’t agree with your natural way of thinking.

Now, I must break this down and really examine it for what it is.  Chan is concerned that people might decide for or against the doctrine of eternal torment based on feelings instead of truth.  He warns his readers against siding with their “natural way of thinking.”  In some circumstances, this is good advice.  God has a way of turning things upside down, saying and doing things we don’t expect.  For example, the religious leaders in Jesus’ day all agreed with one another that the Messiah was going to become the King of the Jews.  They expected the Messiah to pat them on the back for being so holy and give them high status, high paying jobs once He took over the world.  Yet, Jesus called the religious leaders, “You serpents!  You offspring of vipers!  How will you escape the judgment of Gehenna?” and then submitted Himself to their murderous rage.  - This great Plan of the Ages is not at all what might make sense to normal people in a “natural way of thinking”.

Things are not always as they seem.

I’d like to flip Chan’s words around and say something else that rings true.  Just as one ought not depend on feelings in order to reject the doctrine of eternal torment, one must also not suppress feelings in order to embrace the doctrine.  Feelings are there for a reason, like the check engine light in a car.  If you check the engine and all is well, then there could just be a problem with your light.  But the only way to find out is to open the hood and take a look.

Another thing we ought to consider about Chan’s statement is that if God has the right to do whatever He pleases, then is it possible that God has the right to save everyone?  Without the church’s permission?  (Gasp!)  Does this go against “your natural way of thinking”, Chan?  Which is more difficult for someone who is in a high position of respect or authority among Christitans, to hold on to an uncomfortable doctrine and keep the good status and position with the church or openly declare a doctrine as false and get shunned out the door?  Seriously.  If Chan wants to give warnings about not trusting your feelings, then this self-preservative instinct should certainly be in the mix of things to consider.  Let’s look at what Chan stands to lose:

Francis Chan is the best-selling author of books, Crazy Love & Forgotten God, and the host of the BASIC series.  He has also written the children’s books Halfway Herbert, The Big Red Tractor and the Little Village and Ronnie Wilson’s Gift.  Francis is the founding pastor of Cornerstone Church in Simi Valley, California, and is the founder of Eternity Bible College.  He also sits on the board of directors of Children’s Hunger Fund and World IMpact.  Francis now lives in Northern California with his wife, Lisa, and their four daughters and one son.

Please don’t hear what I am not saying.  I am not accusing Chan of picking the success of his Christian-based children’s books or all of his church friends over the truth.  I’m fairly certain, based on what he says, that the one has little to do with the other.  But has Chan considered this as part of his warning against feelings?

If you haven’t read “What I Like About Chan’s Attitude” yet, you might want to give it a look, especially if this blog seems like a bunch of negativity.  I’m not poking holes in the guy, I’m pointing out some of the fundamental holes and errors in his book.

I remember doing some early research on church history (this was going on before I realized Jesus succeeded in His mission as Savior of the whole world) and seeing that Origen taught universalism.  I glossed straight past it.  Do you know why?  Because it was accompanied by an explanation about how Origen’s beliefs were condemned as heretical.  That’s how my mind worked before God’s five year overhaul.  I figured that if church leaders all agreed that his teaching was bogus, then it must be true.  I never even bothered looking up the word, “universalism”, until years later.  It wasn’t even part of my vocabulary.

Fast forward to the time when all the pieces were starting to fit, when I discovered how much political corruption was taking place in the upper tiers of the church heirarchy, when I knew that the people in positions of authority who had the power to decide if other people were heretics were not these holy, nearly-infallible leaders I had imagined them to be.  I picked up the very same book, and read the very same words, but this time, I saw the reference in tiny print to see the notes section in the back of the book.  So I turned to the back of the book and discovered that Origen’s teaching on universalism was not considered heretical until HUNDREDS of years after he died.  Doesn’t that sound a bit suspicious?  What took them so long?  Furthermore, why was this information tucked away, instead of right there next to Origen’s name in the chapter?  Were current Christian publishers not also wondering why it took them so long to condemn universalism?  If so, why are they being so cryptic about it?  If not, why not?  This was a turning point in my research, because I began second guessing all the experts, checking and double checking everything they claimed.  I didn’t trust them any more.  I had to know and learn for myself, instead of taking their word for it.

I noticed that Chan employs this same technique of segregating, and thus deemphasizing vital information.  In the main text of the book, readers see this:

The most famous proponent of universalism was an early church leader named Origen (ca. AD 185-254), who seemed to teach this, though his views were very complex and not always consistent.2 Origen’s beliefs were later deemed heretical,3 but this didn’t stop others from embracing the view that everyone will be saved – though advocates were always in the minority.  In fact, for over 1600 years, hardly any major theologians argued that everyone will be saved.

First of all, notice the numbers 2 and 3.  I bet you can guess what they are.  2 is a reference to a couple of experts who wrote about Origen (not to Origen’s actual writing) and 3 is this:

Origen’s views were deemed heretical at the fifth ecumenical church council held at Constantinople in AD 553.  However, a great deal of politics drove this council, as well as other early church councils, so we shouldn’t consider Origen’s views heretical based solely on the decisions made at Constantinople.

This is some very important information that should not be tucked away, separate from the body of the chapter.  If one just reads the chapter, then he or she will not get the full picture.  Did you catch that?  Chan admits, that “a great deal of politics drove this council, as well as other early church councils”.  The early church was hijacked by power-hungry “Christians” who made decisions based on political motives!  Chan also admits, “…we shouldn’t consider Origen’s views heretical based solely on the decisions made at Constantinople.”  In other words, we CANNOT TRUST that the decisions made about what is now considered “orthodox” doctrine were accurate.  Why on earth does Chan not say this in the main text of his book?  It reminds me of the Wizard of Oz.  Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.  Pay no attention to the notes sections of theological arguments.

Let me give you some additional information that will hopefully help clarify the situation.  Chan says Origen “seemed to teach” universalism.  The words “seemed to” imply that he may or may not have taught universalism.  Here’s an Origen quote.  I encourage you to read more of Origen’s writings (not experts writing about Origen’s writings) so you can decide for yourself what Origen taught:

 If then that subjection be good and salutary by which the Son is said to be subject to the Father, it is an extremely rational and logical inference to deduce that the subjection also of enemies which is said to be made to the Son of God, should be understood as being also salutary and useful; as if, when the Son is said to be subject to the Father, the perfect restoration of the whole of creation is signified, so also, when enemies are said to be subjected to the Son of God, the salvation of the conquered and the restoration of the lost is in that understood to consist. This subjection, however, will be accomplished in certain ways, and after certain training, and at certain times; for it is not to be imagined that the subjection is to be brought about by the pressure of necessity (lest the whole world should then appear to be subdued to God by force), but by word, reason and doctrine; by a call to a better course of things; by the best systems of training; by the employment also of suitable and appropriate threatenings, which will justly impend over those who despise any care or attention to their salvation and usefulness. [...] I am of opinion that the expression by which God is said to be “all in all,” means that he is “all” in each individual person. Now he will be “all” in each individual in this way: when all which any rational understanding cleansed from the dregs of every sort of vice, and with every cloud of wickedness completely swept away, can either feel, or understand, or think, will be wholly God; and when it will no longer behold or retain anything else than God, but when God will be the measure and standard of all its movements, and thus God will be “all,” for there will no longer be any distinction of good and evil, seeing evil nowhere exists; for God is all things, and to him no evil is near. [...] So, then, when the end has been restored to the beginning, and the termination of things compared with their commencement, that condition of things will be reestablished in which rational nature was placed, when it had no need to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil; so that, when all feeling of wickedness has been removed, and the individual has been purified and cleansed, he who alone is the one good God becomes to him “all,” and that not in the case of a few individuals, or of a considerable number, but he himself is “all in all.” And when death shall no longer anywhere exist, nor the sting of death, nor any evil at all, then verily God will be “all in all.”  [...] transforming and restoring all things, in whatever manner they are made, to some useful aim, and to the common advantage of all [...]

Furthermore, isn’t it important to know that the reason Origen’s views are considered “complex” and “inconsistent” is that most of his writings were destroyed?

Now let’s examine the last bit of what Chan writes in his very brief survey of universalism and the conclusion to his drive-by look at Origen.  Chan writes, “In fact, for over 1600 years, hardly any major theologians argued that everyone will be saved.”  Think about this.  What is Chan’s point?  Is the fact that hardly any major theologians publicly endorsed universalism proof that universalism is just a sad by-product of wishful thinking?  I think the real question that readers ought to ask is, “Why?”.  Why did it take hundreds of years for church leaders to oust their universalist brothers?  Why did 1600 years of near silence regarding universalism pass, and now, suddenly, the subject is on the table again?  I can answer that question, and so can everyone else, if we only stop and consider it long enough.

If you lived in an environment where challenging the church-government meant your children could starve and you could be tortured, would you?  Have we Christians forgotten about our bloody past? Have we forgotten that little nine year old children were put on trial for witchcraft?  Have we forgotten that their younger siblings were tortured in order to get them to testify against their parents?  Have forgotten how they were forced to watch their parents burn?  Have we forgotten how elderly people were roasted to death?  Have we forgotten that heresy was punishable by death?  What about the torture, mutilation, humiliation, and mass murder?  Do we so easily set aside the words of religious leaders, that anyone whose view of God did not agree with the church’s official view should be “burned without pity”?

Yet accusers were protected in anonymity.

Have we forgotten how the church grew rich and fat by forceful seizure of the property of heretics?  Will we no longer take into account that church leaders, so ravenous with power, sometimes exhumed and burned the bodies of those who were posthumously declared heretics?  Were they trying to send a message, or what?!  And to whom do you think that message was being sent?  To those “missing” people Chan talked about, those theologians who would dare argue anything, let alone universalism in the bizarro-church.

Perhaps the subject is on the table again now, because the church no longer has the power to make your family pay for your torture fees.  They can no longer shave your head, pour vinegar up your nose, and strip you naked.  They are not allowed to place your head in a skull crushing device and turn the handle until your brains become a gooey mess sliding down your neck.  There are laws now which protect theologians so that they don’t have to worry about being tied up and dropped from various heights.  The church no longer has the power to stretch your limbs until they pull out of socket, hack you with a mallet to crush your bones, make you wear metal boots in which to pour molten lead, skin you alive, and they can no longer place a device called a “heretic’s fork” on your neck to keep you from telling people how awfully you were treated on your way to your execution.  Forced salt ingestion and denial of water, the spiked prayer stool, sleep deprivation, fingernail removal, the list goes on and on.

How dare Chan say, “In fact, for over 1600 years, hardly any major theologians argued that everyone will be saved.” without also reminding us of the horror these theologians might have faced if they were not silent!

This blog is entitled, “Why Chan Can’t Erase Hell.”  But Chan certainly erases the Hell on earth created by church leaders in his glaring omissions.  One of the reasons Chan and the majority of churchianity cannot erase the doctrine of eternal torment is that it has been ruthlessly and thoroughly and emphatically defended for over well over a millenia.  This kind of horror doesn’t just disappear in a few generations.  In the scope of human history, it wasn’t really that long ago that the church lost it’s strangle hold on the world.  Ungodly fear and awe of so-called institutional church authority is a real-life nightmare from which His children, for the most part, have yet to awaken.

Next blog: Why Chan Can’t Erase Hell (Part Two) – theological monkey paintings.

 

In my fiction writing class, we were given some assigned reading over the weekend from the book The Lie that Tells a Truth by John Dufresne.  As I was reading about writing characters, I was struck by the truth, the real life truth, found on the pages.  I’d like to share a bit with you, so that you will be encouraged to see people in a way you might not have otherwise.

The first thing a writer needs in creating a story is tenderness for all of his characters.  Characters are like children.  Love them, be generous, indulgent, and forgiving.  On the other hand, don’t let them get away with lying, with exaggerating, with shirking responsibility, and so on.  Characters need constant attention, reassurance, and love.  You will have to know your characters well in order to love them, and to do so you need to live with them intimately.  They must be with you when you go to sleep at night, when you wake in the morning.  Eventually, they’ll find their way into your dreams.

You can never know too much about your characters.  You know their fears, their dreams.  You know their tics.  Every character, you realize, has an imagination and memories, has suffered childhood traumas, has or has had a mom and a dad.  Every character has regrets.  Every character has secrets.  Every character has a public self and a private self and a self that he doesn’t even know about.  Every character has a history, a formative past.  No character exists in a vacuum.  A character is fully realized only when he or she interacts in a social context.  At work.  At the market.  In traffic. [...]

They need to aspire and to fail.  We understand failure.  Failure is endearing.  We don’t understand whining.  The characters need to be ambivalent most of the time.  Motivation also makes characters convincing – when we know why they do what they do.  What makes mathematics interesting is not the right answer, but where the answer came from and where it leads.  What makes fiction interesting is not what the characters do but why they do it.  [...]

If you find yourself mocking a character, it’s a good idea to think harder about him and find something for which you can respect him.  Maybe the guy who seems so emotionally abusive to his girlfriend, so impatient and sarcastic and all, spends every Saturday afternoon at a nursing home singing for the patients.  They love him dearly.  He does it for free.  On the other hand, if you find yourself admiring everything about your character, it’s time to think harder about her to see what unflattering attribute will humanize her.  She is irrationally jealous of her sister, though she would never admit it, not even to herself.  She things no one notices how she never misses an opportunity to put sister down.  (Where does that jealousy come from?  When in her childhood did it begin?)  We have all learned [...] we cannot stand in judgment of our characters.  We are here to witness their behavior.  And we should remember that it is a character’s faults that make him likable.  We care about people who are scared, who act foolishly, who are driven and derided by their vanity [...]

I imagine that writing fiction, creating people with hopes and failures, who have healthy and emotionally damaging relationships, who amaze readers with their accomplishments or shock readers with their indiscretions, is a glimpse into the mind of God and how God might view us.  As the omnipotent unlimited author (to use literary terms), He sees to the very core of every character in the human story.

Apollumi is a dreadful word.  Consider the following scriptures, with the Greek word apollumi (and derivatives):

Matthew 2:13 And on their having withdrawn, lo, a messenger of the Lord doth appear in a dream to Joseph, saying, “Having risen, take the child and his mother, and flee to Egypt, and be thou there till I may speak to thee, for Herod is about to seek the child to apollumi him.”

Matthew 5:29 But, if thy right eye doth cause thee to stumble, pluck it out and cast from thee, for it is good to thee that one of thy members may apollumi, and not thy whole body be cast to gehenna.

Matthew 9:17 Nor do they put new wine into old skins, and if not – the skins burst, and the wine doth run out, and the skins are apollumi, but they put new wine into new skins, and both are preserved together.

Matthew 26:52 Then saith Jesus to him, “Turn back thy sword to its place; for all who did take the sword, by the sword shall apollumi…”

Mark 11:18 And the scribes and the chief priests heard, and they were seeking how they shall apollumi him, for they were afraid of him, because all the multitude was astonished at his teaching.

Luke 11:51 …from the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, who apollumi between the altar and the house; yes, I say to you, It shall be required from this generation.

Luke 17:29 …and on the day Lot went forth from Sodom, He rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and apollumi all.

John 6:27 …work not for the food that is apollumi, but for the food that is remaining to life age-during, which the Son of Man will give to you, for him did the Father seal – [even] God.

Acts 5:37 After this one rose up, Judas the Galilean, in the days of the enrollment, and drew away much people after him, and that one apollumi, and all, as many as were obeying him, were scattered…

1 Corinthians 1:19 …for it hath been written, “I will apollumi the wisdom of the wise, and the intelligence of the intelligent I will bring to nought”…

2 Thessalonians 2:10 …and in all deceitfulness of the unrighteousness in those apollumi, because the love of the truth they did not receive for their being saved.

James 1:11 …for the sun did rise with the burning heat, and did wither the grass, and the flower of it fell, and the grace of its appearance did apollumi, so also the rich in his way shall fade away!

2 John 1:8 See to yourselves that ye may not apollumi the things that we wrought, but a full reward may receive.

Jude 1:11 Wo to them! because in the way of Cain they did go on, and to the deceit of Balaam for reward they did rush, and in the gainsaying of Korah they did apollumi.

Apollumi is associated with murder, dismemberment, uselessness, violent death, assassination, destruction, decay, failure, disgrace, withering, loss of reward, judgment, etc.  Is the work of apollumi irreversible?

Things are not always as they seem:

Matthew 10:39 He who found his life shall appolumi it, and he who appolumi his life for my sake shall find it.

Mark 9:41 …for whoever may give you to drink a cup of water in my name, because ye are Christ’s, verily I say to you, he may not apollumi his reward.

Luke 6:9 Then said Jesus unto them, “I will question you something: Is it lawful on the sabbaths to do good, or to do evil? life to save or to apollumi?”

John 3:16 …for God did so love the world, that His Son – the only begotten – He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not apollumi, but may have life age-during.

John 10:28 …and life age-during I give to them, and they shall not apollumi to the age, and no one shall pluck them out of my hand.

John 12:25 …he who is loving his life shall apollumi it, and he who is hating his life in this world – to life age-during shall keep it.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not tardy as to the promise, as some are deeming tardiness, but is patient because of you, not intending any to apollumi, but all to make room for repentance.

Jesus is Lord of apollumi.  What apollumi does, Jesus is able to undo:

Matthew 8:25-27 …and his disciples having come to him, awoke him, saying, “Sir, save us; we are apollumi.”  And he saith to them, “Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith?” Then having risen, he rebuked the winds and the sea, and there was a great calm; and the men wondered, saying, “What kind – is this, that even the wind and the sea do obey him?”

Matthew 18:11 …for the Son of Man did come to save the apollumi.

Matthew 18:14 …so it is not will in presence of your Father who is in the heavens, that one of these little ones may apollumi.

Luke 15:4 What man of you having a hundred sheep, and having apollumi one out of them, doth not leave behind the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go on after the apollumi one, till he may find it?

Luke 15:8-9 Or what woman having ten drachms, if she may apollumi one drachm, doth not light a lamp, and sweep the house, and seek carefully till that she may find? and having found, she doth call together the female friends and the neighbours, saying, Rejoice with me, for I found the drachm that I apollumi.

Luke 15:24 …because this my son was dead, and did live again, and he was apollumi, and was found; and they began to be merry.

John 6:39 And this is the will of the Father who sent me, that all that He hath given to me I may not apollumi of it, but may raise it up in the last day.

John 10:10 The thief doth not come, except that he may steal, and kill, and apollumi; I came that they may have life, and may have [it] abundantly.